I’ve been here before — trying to convince myself that there are genuine, profitable tipping services out there (somewhere). Have I finally found it in Betting Gods?
The Tipping Game
► It’s mainly rogue
It’s not a good way to start a review by headlining the post with “it’s not a scam”. But that’s how dodgy the tipping game really is.
In previous posts I’ve made clear my reservations about Tipsters, and the whole concept of ‘Tipping’. Take a look here for a summary: Do Betting Tipsters Offer Value? Can They Be Trusted?
And in case you don’t read that article on Tipsters, the answer to both questions in the title can be summarised as: “No, not usually”.
► Tipping Is Too popular for it’s own good
But that’s not the way most punters go about their betting. I’ve done some research into this using Google Trends, and drawn comparisons between the search volumes related to Tipsters and those for Value Betting. Here are the results.
“Betting Tips” Vs “Value Bets“
“Betting tips” is becoming increasingly popular, whilst “value bets” has remained consistently low — and almost non-existent — by comparison.
“Tipsters” vs “Value betting“
A slight improvement for the ‘Team Value’ this time — but not by much. “Betting tips” is by far the more popular topic, and always has been.
What these search volumes tell me is that the vast majority of sports bettors are more interested in Tipsters than Value. So the realisation for me is that only a small percentage of people will ever fully convert, understand, or commit to the concept of Value betting as opposed to trying to pick winners.
► Past Experiences
I previously tried looking for the best tipping service I possibly could find. My results were about as disastrous as I expected.
The unnamed service I subscribed to published historical profit records based on odds that were valid at some point — but not at the point the tips were released. In order words, they would publish ‘peak’ prices on horses and pass them off as the prices they were supplying to customers. That’s totally fraudulent in my eyes.
Read more on this here: My Experience With A Well-Known ‘Professional’ Sports Tipping Service
Based on my views, and my own experiences, I don’t love any Tipping Service. But as the Google Search search volumes suggest, I can’t change the way the majority of people approach sports betting. So what I’m doing here is giving you the Tipping Service that I like the most.
Here’s What I Like About Betting Gods
► A Legitimate Company
Betting Gods isn’t some guy on Twitter claiming to “smash the bookies”, or tweeting “BOOOOM!” every time he strikes a lucky win. It’s a properly registered company that’s sponsored a number of different races and courses.
► A Tipster Stable
Betting Gods is a tipster ‘stable’. This means that it brings together different tipsters under a single platform. From football to golf, horse racing to rugby — they’ve got plenty to choose from (including mixed sports). This setup isn’t unique to Betting Gods, though.
The main advantage of a ‘stable’ is that it gives a diverse offering of tips, involving the input of different individuals and approaches to betting. You might for example find one Tipster that works well for you, whilst there’s others you haven’t had much joy with. It offers that freedom to hire and fire, so to speak.
► Verified By Trust Pilot
Betting Gods has excellent reviews on Trust Pilot — and this is often the benchmark to many good, reliable online services.
Trust Pilot reviews can be faked. But it’s an open platform there for legitimate customers to write negative feedback if they wanted to. It leaves the service totally open to scrutiny.
► ClickBank Guarantee
I’m pleased to see that affiliates are able to promote Betting Gods via the ClickBank hub. If you believe that you’ve been mis-sold something by Betting Gods, then there is a 2 month period to claim a refund directly from ClickBank. Betting Gods will have to comply. Read more on the guarantee here.
However, from everything i’ve read about Betting Gods, it seems that it rarely gets to that stage. Customer service and dispute resolution is a strong point of the business. This is made evident by the public replies frequently given from the staff at the company, across many betting sites.
► Your Bookmaker Accounts Might Be Closed
This sounds like a bad thing — and in many ways it is. But the fact that many subscribers of Betting Gods have complained that their Bookmaker accounts were restricted or closed is a very good sign. It suggests that profit is being made from the bets they’ve been recommended by the service. Hence why Bookmakers actively shut these people down.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Tipping services like these create arbitrage opportunities.
► Like me, They believe That Tipping Is A Rogue industry
The owner of Betting Gods, Darren Moore, has called for the regulation of Tipster services to prevent punters being scammed. A quick Google search reveals several occasions where he has emphasised that his company aims to clean up the Tipping game by offering a genuine, transparent service.
To be allowed onto Betting Gods, Tipsters must first prove their tips to a proofing manager in a 16 week trial run. Betting Gods claims to only want to work with Tipsters who can prove their ability to consistently provide good tips.
► Tip Explanations Are Encouraged
Now here’s a point that’s often overlooked. Tipping is just a bit of fun for some people.
So instead of just listing the tips, Betting Gods encourages their Tipsters to explain the selections. Subscribers are then able to learn a bit more about the sport, and perhaps even approach their betting from a different angle going forward. For example, you might receive a Lay tip for a horse based on the analysis that the trainer has been struggling to produce results lately.
► Tipsters Are Paid Well
Here’s the big question about tipping: why would anyone sell their tips when they could earn from their own selections?
The 2 most believable answers are:
- Their tips aren’t profitable to bet on in the first place
- They’re paid very well for selling profitable tips.
The income for a Betting Gods Tipster is apparently high — with some reportedly earning thousands per month for their recommendations. And that sits well with me.
► 30 day trial for £1
£1 for a full 30 day free trial is cheap by any standards. There’s nothing to lose (except a pound) by giving it a go and monitoring your results. You don’t need to place real bets, because you could potentially lose large sums of money.
Monitor the odds first, followed by the results, before parting with any real investment.
Here’s What I Don’t Like About Betting Gods
► The Odds Are Sometimes Tough To Grab
Amongst the sea of (hopefully legitimate) positive reviews on third party sites like Trust Pilot, there are a few Betting Gods customers that have complained about not being able to grab the odds stated by the Tipsters. If this happens frequently enough, then it totally invalidates the entire business model.
But from what i’ve seen, it’s mainly the very popular Tipsters suffering from this issue. Subscribers to such Tipsters claim to have immediately tried to back a horse at the stated odds after the tip was released and were consistently unsuccessful in doing so. It goes without saying that the selections wouldn’t profit as SP — because the odds are far too sharp by that point.
I will verify these claims myself (probably in August 2017) and monitor the results.
The founder of Betting Gods, Darren Moore, has replied to many complaints of this kind by stating that the given odds were taken from OddsChecker. He seemed genuinely concerned about the problem, and the satisfaction of the customers. To his credit, he has not removed these negative comments from the Betting Gods website.
Warning: You absolutely cannot subscribe to any Tipster that offers tips at unachievable odds. This implies that the past records are illegitimate.
► Some Of The Subscription Fees Are Too High
I’ve seen some subscriptions to Tipsters for prices such as £35 per month. Granted, you might see a 45% ROI and think to yourself “£35 is nothing if i’m making that much return from it”.
But be realistic. Assume you’re able to make around 5-10% ROI and factor in how much you’re willing to stake per each bet. If you’re not able to cover that subscription from your estimated winnings, then there’s no point in subscribing.
For example: If you assumed a 10% ROI from a Tipster, then you’d need to bet £350 in total to cover a £35 subscription fee. And this doesn’t account for variance in your results.
If You Like Tipping, Here’s What I Suggest
At present there isn’t a way of signing up for all of the services that Betting Gods offer. Instead you have to sign up for each Tipster individually. So here’s how i’d choose one:
- Avoid those that are incredibly popular. These are likely to suffer the most from the odds dropping due to high volumes of bets.
- Steer clear of those with a ROI that’s too good to be true. This sounds counter intuitive, but I cannot believe that anything other than pure luck has an ROI like 45%. I’d sooner see a lower ROI, but with believable consistency.
- Aim to find one with the largest sample. You need a very strong track record to have any idea of how good a tipster might perform going forward.
Here’s an example of a service with over 900 bets in the sample, and a ROI of 9.45%
Upon closer inspection I can see that this particular Tipster operates in some pretty niche markets. We’re talking the Over/Under markets in the League of Ireland Premier Division, and so on. That’s a promising sign.
Betting Gods shows the running pnl of ‘the football formula’
The track record of this Tipster looks decent. It’s struggled to live up to the good start, but it shows promise. Just remember that the time period doesn’t matter — it’s the number of bets placed.
Once you’ve chosen a Tipster, there’s 2 things you should initially care about:
- The odds. First and foremost you have to verify that the odds the Tipster gives you are achievable at Bookies or Betting Exchanges. If so, then that’s great because it means his good track record probably wasn’t a hoax.
- Beating the SP. Betting can either win or lose money. Don’t fixate on the profit yet. Sometimes you’ll win by pure luck, and other times you’ll lose when you made smart bets. But to be clear about how good your bets were you should verify that your odds are consistently higher than the start price. If so, then you’re onto a winner longterm. Look here for evidence.
That’s it. This is the way i’d go about finding a legitimate Tipster from Betting Gods.
► Do I Believe in the Betting Gods?
Let’s just say I haven’t yet converted.
There’s a few question marks here. I’d need to see consistent profits over a long period of time first. I’d want to verify the odds myself on thousands of selections — like i’ve done with Trademate Sports. I haven’t had time to do that yet. But there’s nothing to say that value can’t be found from a service like this.
Regardless of anything, the 30 day trial is an attractive offer for anyone that’s even slightly intrigued by the service. Even if you’re like me and your beliefs are firmly rooted in the ‘Church of Value Betting’.